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Compassion and Activism: InnerPractice for Outer Change

Sharon Salzberg
Sharon Salzberg
Jul 21, 2012
9 min de lecture
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A panel of meditation teachers and social justice activists discuss the apparent contradiction between inner peace practice and outward activism. They explore how personal transformation and social change are inseparable, sharing stories of activists who built emotional resilience through contemplative practice, examining the relationship between our inner landscape and the external world we're trying to change, and offering practical tools—including guided meditations and movement work—to help activists sustain compassionate action without burning out.

Lecture · 8 sections

What Is the Central Contradiction in Activism?

One of the opening observations from the panel is that there exists an inherent contradiction in activist work that many practitioners only slowly become aware of. As the discussion opens, it's noted: "There's nothing better than a peace activist like really being loud and violent and screaming and fighting and battling for war—there's an inherent contradiction that a lot of us are starting to wrestle with." This points to a fundamental tension: if we are fighting for a more just, fair, peaceful, loving, and compassionate world, what does it mean if our methods involve anger, aggression, and divisiveness?

The panel positions this question as central to contemporary activism. The work isn't just about external outcomes—the laws passed, the votes won, the policies changed. It's also about what happens inside us as we do this work, and how our inner state shapes the world we're creating. This moves beyond the old framework where results justify means. Instead, the conversation asks: What are the results of our own process? How does the way we fight for change affect who we become and what world actually emerges?

Why Is There a Split Between Inner Peace Practice and Activism?

One panelist, Carla Goldstein, shares how she arrived at this question through a 20-year career in traditional advocacy. She worked in the state legislature, city council, and spent nearly a decade at Planned Parenthood, deeply immersed in conventional modes of activism. Over time, she describes feeling "a deep feeling inside that something was missing, something was wrong." There was a disconnect between her hunger for a loving world and loving relationships, and the actual experience of activism itself. She couldn't articulate what was missing until she encountered teachers and literature from wisdom traditions that asked an ancient question: How do we be?

The panel identifies a practical cleave between two worlds: the world of meditation practitioners, mindfulness teachers, yogis, and people focused on inner peace, versus the world of activists fighting for outer peace and social justice. These communities rarely intersect. Goldstein recalls meeting Sharon Salzberg (a leading U.S. meditation teacher) at Omega Institute, where both had been teaching, and discovering they shared a concern: Why are these two universes separate? Why aren't they talking to each other?

The insight here is that both worlds are pursuing peace and justice—but they've organized themselves as if they were working on different projects. Inner peace and outer justice have been treated as separate domains, when in fact they're deeply entangled.

What Does Interdependence Have to Do with How We Treat Opponents?

To illuminate the relationship between inner work and activism, Goldstein shares a teaching from the Buddhist teacher Thich Nhat Hanh about the right hand and the left hand. The two hands know each other well and can act independently or in unison. If the left hand did something that angered the right hand, the right hand would not cut off the left hand or hurt it. Instead, it would respond differently to the anger, because it knows inherently that it is completely interdependent and interconnected with the left hand.

"And this is what we all are with each other," Goldstein explains. "We are interconnected and interdependent. What does that mean?" The teaching suggests that our actual relationship to other people—even those we oppose or who oppose us—is one of deep interdependence. This understanding shifts how we approach conflict. It opens the possibility that we can work powerfully for change without treating those we disagree with as enemies to be destroyed.

How Does Early Trauma Shape Activist Identity?

Sharon Salzberg shares personal context that illustrates how inner and outer work become woven together from childhood. She was born in Toronto during the Civil Rights movement, born "with two fists ready to get with" the work, as she puts it. Her parents were civil rights activists, and she grew up in an all-white neighborhood where she experienced discrimination directly. Her mother was mixed-race and could pass for white; her father was of Jamaican descent. During segregation, they faced significant hardship.

Rather than shield her from these realities, Salzberg's mother taught her emotional intelligence tools at a very young age. When children teased her at school—calling her "chocolate pudding"—her mother didn't dismiss the pain. Instead, she modeled how to respond with wit and dignity ("Just call them snowball"). Later, Salzberg watched her mother navigate a political campaign where an opponent spread the rumor that she was anti-Semitic, despite her work as a human rights commissioner. Salzberg felt real anger at the injustice, but her mother remained calm and taught her something crucial through her example: how to hold power without letting anger consume you.

This is not a lesson about suppressing anger or accepting injustice. It's about building the emotional and spiritual capacity to act powerfully without being consumed by reactivity. Salzberg's testimony suggests that for many activists, their commitment to social change is rooted in early experiences of discrimination and injustice—but that same rooting can trap them in reactive, unsustainable patterns unless they also develop inner resilience.

What Is the Inner Terrain and the External Terrain?

The panel introduces a framework that distinguishes the inner landscape from the external world. The internal terrain is about our own emotional states, our capacity for self-awareness, our ability to stay grounded, and our relationship to our own pain and anger. The external terrain is the world of policy, systems, institutions, and other people's behavior.

Much activist work focuses entirely on the external terrain: passing legislation, organizing communities, winning campaigns. But the panel argues that activists who want sustainable impact—and who want to avoid reproducing the harm they're fighting against—must also tend to the internal terrain. This doesn't mean meditation instead of action. It means bringing contemplative awareness and emotional intelligence to the work itself.

One concrete practice the panel guides the audience through is a movement meditation that invites activists to feel their own power and grounding. Salzberg leads participants to feel the earth beneath them, to breathe in the energy of the sun and earth, and to sense their own light and strength. The practice isn't escapist—it's about building the internal resources needed to show up for sustained, compassionate action. As she guides: "Feel your power, fill your light." This isn't about ego; it's about having the capacity to give without depleting yourself.

How Does Compassion Function as an Activist Tool?

Throughout the discussion, compassion isn't presented as a soft sentiment or a means of being nice to people who are causing harm. Rather, compassion is described as a capacity to understand interdependence and to act from a place of clarity rather than reactivity. One panelist references work with Jewish Voice for Peace, an organization of Jews working for Palestinian rights—a practice that requires activists to hold compassion for people while opposing their actions and policies.

The question the panel grapples with is: How do I bring grace and love to this work while still being honest about harm and power imbalances? This isn't a question with a simple answer, but the framework offered suggests it requires activists to cultivate what might be called spiritual maturity—the capacity to hold complexity, to see the humanity in people whose policies you oppose, and to act from conviction without demonizing.

The panel also touches on burnout and the dangers of activist work that demands constant outrage. One observation is that activists can become trapped in a cycle of blame and overwhelm. "We start blaming people," one panelist notes, because the work feels urgent and endless. But blame, while sometimes justified, can also become a way of avoiding our own agency and capacity. Compassion, by contrast, invites activists to ask: What role am I playing? What is within my power? This reclaims agency without collapsing accountability.

Why Do Activists Burn Out and How Can Contemplative Practice Help?

The panel addresses a practical reality: activist work is unsustainable if it's powered only by anger and righteousness. One panelist shares that she spent years in activism, then "started smoking, drinking"—using substances to cope with the emotional toll. This isn't a moral failing; it's a sign that the work wasn't integrated with practices that nourish the activist's own well-being and resilience.

The teaching here is that meditation, yoga, and contemplative practice aren't distractions from activism—they're essential scaffolding for it. When activists develop a capacity to witness their own emotions without being swept away by them, to access their own sense of power and interconnection, they become less dependent on external validation and less prone to burnout. They can work from a place of abundance (I have power to give) rather than scarcity (I am desperately fighting to change everything).

Sharon Salzberg speaks to resilience and how it arises not through constant vigilance but through deeper understanding. True resilience comes from recognizing that happiness and suffering are not simply matters of personal choice or individual effort—they arise from complex, interconnected causes. When activists understand this, they're less likely to blame themselves for the persistence of injustice, and less likely to expect that victory in one campaign will solve everything. This allows for a more realistic, sustainable approach to change work.

Where to Go From Here

The panel offers no easy formula for merging inner practice and outer activism. Instead, they model a conversation: How do we articulate this integration? What language and practices help activists stay grounded, compassionate, and effective? The invitation is to experiment. Try meditation. Notice your reactivity in organizing work. Tend to your own emotional and spiritual landscape as seriously as you tend to policy briefs. Look for teachers and communities—like Omega Institute or organizations explicitly bridging contemplative practice and justice work—who are asking these questions.

The underlying message is that the world we're trying to create begins inside us. If we're fighting for a world of compassion and justice, the first place to practice that is in how we treat ourselves, our fellow activists, and even those we oppose. This doesn't mean we abandon strategy or critical thinking. It means we bring our full selves—grounded, resilient, compassionate, and clear—to the work of building the world we believe in.

Transcript

[0:14] what we're really hoping to do in this

[0:19] short time that we have together is be

[0:23] in what we feel is an opening space

[0:28] around looking at what is does it mean

[0:30] to be an activist how how do we bring

[0:35] ourselves to our work in a way that our

[0:40] own process is creating the kind of

[0:43] world that we want uh there's you know

[0:46] nothing better than a peace activist

[0:48] like really being loud and violent and

[0:52] screaming and fighting and in battling

[0:54] for war there's an inherent

[0:56] contradiction that a lot of us are

[0:58] starting to wrestle with that to think

[1:01] about so there's the the big question

[1:04] about what are the results of our own

[1:07] process as we are fighting for working

[1:10] for change and then there's the question

[1:12] of how are we on the

[1:14] inside uh if we're trying so hard to

[1:17] create a world that is more just and

[1:20] fair and peaceful and um loving and

[1:23] compassionate what's going on on the

[1:25] inside of us and what are the skills and

[1:27] the tools that we need um

[1:31] to create that on the inside which then

[1:33] of course out pictures what's going on

[1:36] on the outside what is the relationship

[1:38] between our inner landscape and our

[1:40] external World these are some of the the

[1:42] questions that the panel is going to be

[1:46] exploring and I want to just kick off a

[1:49] little bit by telling you how uh this

[1:52] panel came into existence um and it

[1:56] requires a little bit of personal

[1:58] context uh which is that I I had been

[2:02] for like the first 20 years of my

[2:04] professional career a professional

[2:06] Advocate I was born my parents were

[2:08] civil rights activists and I went to law

[2:11] school and I worked in the state

[2:12] legislature and city council and I went

[2:15] to work for getting close to a decade uh

[2:18] at Planned

[2:19] Parenthood and was deeply immersed uh in

[2:22] sort of the traditional Mo modes and

[2:24] mechanisms of

[2:26] activism and over

[2:30] many many years I I just had this deep

[2:34] feeling inside that something was

[2:36] missing something was wrong um there was

[2:40] a lack of

[2:41] integration between the deep deep hunger

[2:44] I had for the kind of world a loving

[2:48] World loving relationships and and what

[2:52] was happening all around me there just

[2:54] seemed to be a disconnect I couldn't put

[2:55] my finger on it I didn't have the

[2:57] vocabulary for it and and uh then I

[3:01] started bumping into literature and

[3:03] classes and teachers and things that go

[3:06] back you know through the Millennium

[3:09] wisdom Traditions cross culture around

[3:12] the world this question of how do we be

[3:14] 100% has been a question ever since

[3:18] humans could communicate about what our

[3:19] questions were and I discovered a place

[3:23] called Omega Institute which is where

[3:25] where I've been working for almost the

[3:27] last seven years and Omega is really

[3:30] committed to this integrated approach to

[3:32] personal and social change how do we

[3:34] awaken the best in the human

[3:36] spirit and as I got to know the many

[3:40] many teachers who come through Omega and

[3:42] all three of my co-panelists have been

[3:46] teachers at Omega one of them who I met

[3:49] was Sharon

[3:51] salsburg and you know I was introduced

[3:54] to her oh let me introduce you to Sharon

[3:56] salur she's a leading meditation teacher

[3:58] in the United States uh hi Sharon nice

[4:01] to meet you you know and we went away

[4:02] merry way couple years in a row see

[4:06] Sharon at Omega hi Sharon nice to see

[4:07] you yes nice to see you and then even

[4:11] though I was and am very immersed in

[4:13] omega's work you know there's that piece

[4:15] of me that activists you can't take the

[4:17] activist the action out of the activist

[4:20] person so I uh began coming to the

[4:22] netroots nation's

[4:25] conferences uh which began I think this

[4:27] is the 7th or something and I've been to

[4:29] many of them and I was walking around

[4:32] didn't really recognize many people but

[4:35] walking around and literally like we

[4:39] back into each other and she Sharon

[4:41] looks at me she's like what are you

[4:42] doing here and I'm like what are you

[4:44] doing here and we had this conversation

[4:47] about the cleave between these two

[4:50] universes the universe of the people who

[4:52] are meditation mindfulness practitioners

[4:55] yogis people who are interested in

[4:57] matters of the heart and uh inner peace

[5:00] and the people who are activists who are

[5:02] working for outer peace and why is this

[5:06] cleave between these two worlds and how

[5:08] might they be integrated and hey maybe

[5:10] someday we should teach something at

[5:11] netroots this was about three years ago

[5:14] anyway here we are we have been joined

[5:16] by uh two other um amazing one is a a

[5:21] yogi activist and the other is an

[5:22] activist coming to yoga and so we're all

[5:26] uh in this new inversion named field

[5:30] together and looking for language

[5:32] looking for ways to articulate it so

[5:34] that's that's how we come to you today

[5:37] and um before I

[5:40] introduce uh my colleagues I want to

[5:44] just share with you a story that a very

[5:47] renowned Buddhist teacher tikn Han uses

[5:51] to

[5:53] explain this challenge that our

[5:56] interdependence with each other creates

[5:59] in terms of how we relate to each other

[6:00] and how we solve problems and he does

[6:03] this very beautiful story about the

[6:04] right hand and the left hand that uh

[6:09] know each other very well they act

[6:11] independently my right hand can go over

[6:13] here and my left hand can go over here

[6:16] or they can act in unison but they have

[6:18] an inherent knowing of each other and if

[6:20] my left hand were to do something that

[6:23] really made my right hand angry my right

[6:26] hand would not cut off my left hand it

[6:29] would would not hurt my left hand it

[6:32] would do something different with the

[6:34] anger that it had towards the left hand

[6:37] because it knows inherently that it is

[6:39] completely interdependent and

[6:40] interconnected with the left hand and

[6:43] this is what we all are with each other

[6:46] we are interconnected and interdependent

[6:49] and what does that mean and the the

[6:51] questions that we're asking are what

[6:53] does that mean for our activism as

[6:55] individuals and as collective trying to

[6:57] build a better world so how is everyone

[7:00] doing this

[7:02] morning good right so I'd like to talk

[7:05] to you a little bit about my work and

[7:08] then we're going to do a little

[7:12] movement don't be alarmed you don't have

[7:15] to do

[7:16] it I'm just going to invite you to uh do

[7:19] it along with me so a little bit about

[7:21] my background um is Carla

[7:25] explained I was I was born in Toronto

[7:27] and and uh born during the Civil Rights

[7:30] uh movement and I must have come in as a

[7:33] baby with two fists left ready to get F

[7:37] so I don't know if it was the energy

[7:38] from my Scottish Irish grandmother with

[7:41] that fiery Feist or my Jamaican Rebel

[7:45] background uh or my parents spoke being

[7:47] civil rights activists but um I

[7:50] certainly uh was born into a family with

[7:53] great teachers my two parents and uh my

[7:57] parents really uh over came a lot of

[8:02] discrimination um I was uh grew up in an

[8:05] allwhite neighborhood and it was tough

[8:09] it was really tough and I I feel very

[8:12] blessed to have learned tools at a very

[8:15] young age how to deal with

[8:17] [Music]

[8:19] discrimination and how

[8:21] to become an agent of change and my

[8:24] mother who was let's just say um she was

[8:28] the mix race and she could pass for

[8:31] white uh her siblings all married

[8:35] someone of European descent so my

[8:37] cousins are all blonde blue eyes my

[8:39] first cousin's on my mother's side but

[8:41] my mother chose a different path and she

[8:44] married my father who was of Jamaican

[8:47] descent very dark very very dark so uh

[8:51] during segregation they had a lot of

[8:55] trouble so um I remember my mother as as

[8:59] a small child child I remember um you

[9:02] know kids used to tease me and so there

[9:05] there was a lot of uh difficulty there

[9:08] and my mother gave me some really smart

[9:10] tools and you know like say Mom I was 3

[9:13] years old I remember this kids called me

[9:15] chocolate pudding at school and she said

[9:17] sweetheart just call them

[9:21] snowball and and and maybe that's not

[9:24] you know the the best tool but she

[9:26] really taught me emotional how to build

[9:28] my emotional uh intelligence so we have

[9:31] our IQ and the EQ becoming

[9:35] self-aware and so I remember when she

[9:39] was a politician and she was in a her

[9:43] constituency was about 70%

[9:47] Jewish and her opponent said that she

[9:51] was anti-semitic now here she was a

[9:53] human rights commissioner but he was

[9:55] desperate so he decided let me just tell

[9:59] it everyone spread the rumor that she's

[10:03] anti-semitic so I watched my mother

[10:06] navigate through the

[10:07] situation and you know a lot of anger

[10:10] arose I remember feeling really angry

[10:13] how could he do that he was pulling down

[10:14] her signs and I said Mom go fight them

[10:16] she remained very calm and I always like

[10:19] to say like water off of the duck's back

[10:22] she just stayed within her inner

[10:25] calmness and

[10:27] peace and within a day one of Canada's

[10:31] top rabbis Rabbi PL endorsed her on the

[10:35] front cover of every newspaper end of

[10:38] story done deal so she had the option to

[10:42] go and fight with anger stoop to his

[10:45] level and it get dirty and it gets very

[10:47] messy and really no one gets anywhere

[10:50] because there's no way to win but when

[10:52] you stay in graes and

[10:54] Empower that's when you can transform so

[10:57] I learned at a very young age to

[10:59] transform form of

[11:00] compassion then there was my own

[11:02] transformation because I really didn't

[11:04] like myself because my skin was too

[11:07] black uh I my thighs were too thick um

[11:12] my hair was too

[11:13] curly so I had this this feeling and on

[11:17] several levels maybe I felt good about

[11:20] myself but deep down I really didn't

[11:22] feel that good about myself so I I was

[11:26] apologizing for who I was cuz when I go

[11:28] into the black neighborhood Hood I

[11:30] wasn't black enough when I'd be in the

[11:32] white neighborhood I was too black so I

[11:35] couldn't quite figure out where I

[11:37] belonged so I apologized for who I was I

[11:41] let myself shrink down didn't want to

[11:43] shine my light so by doing that I

[11:47] started you know I smoked I drank all

[11:50] kinds of things to abuse myself to prove

[11:52] that I could be cool right so that

[11:56] didn't that wasn't really sustainable

[12:00] um so I had to go into my heart and

[12:03] really figure out how to get back on

[12:07] track and Alvin Aly I remember seeing

[12:10] Alvin Aly when I was a little girl and

[12:12] just seeing the power and beautiful

[12:16] images and the spirituality and the will

[12:21] of and Grace and in motion and so I uh

[12:26] auditioned for alvan and I went and

[12:28] trained there and from there I learned

[12:30] about yoga this was over 20 years

[12:33] ago and yoga has been a

[12:36] wonderful uh a wonderful tool a

[12:39] wonderful practice for me to be able to

[12:42] remove the obstacles Within Myself and

[12:45] the biggest tool that I've learned is

[12:48] the tool of

[12:51] non-judgment because the first thing

[12:53] that I want to do is I want to judge

[12:56] myself I want to say I'm not this I'm

[12:58] not that and then I start judging other

[13:01] people she's not this she's not

[13:04] that and that has been something that I

[13:07] work on every single day and through

[13:10] yoga the idea is is to the word comes

[13:14] from yoke to unite so I was thinking in

[13:18] my meditation this

[13:20] morning that we're all like an egg when

[13:23] we come into we are eggs

[13:25] actually when we come into this world so

[13:28] we come in whole

[13:31] and then something happens to us along

[13:33] our process we have things happen and

[13:36] we're like Humpty Dumpty and we fall off

[13:39] the wall and we shatter into many broken

[13:44] pieces within ourselves and outside and

[13:48] often times as I've learned along this

[13:50] journey that the internal what's going

[13:53] on the internal

[13:55] terrain and the external terrain the

[13:57] external is it direct through ction of

[14:00] what's going on

[14:01] inside so when I'm fragmented and

[14:04] feeling disconnected within I am feeling

[14:07] fragmented and disconnected with my

[14:09] community with those around

[14:11] me so the practice of yoga is to unite

[14:16] the Mind versus starts with the thoughts

[14:18] so when you go into the poses with the

[14:20] AOS and you connect with the breath and

[14:22] breath is life when you go into the

[14:25] poses the immediate thing to say is I

[14:27] can't do it I'm going to break something

[14:29] going to tear right anyone do yoga does

[14:32] anyone okay so you most likely have gone

[14:35] through this process and then the whole

[14:38] thing is is that you have the emotional

[14:40] thing that comes up you know you feel

[14:43] like oh you know I just I'm not what am

[14:45] I here for a lot of emotions might come

[14:48] up and then you have the this the will

[14:51] can I do it and that's deciding factor

[14:55] can I do it or can't I do it and that's

[14:57] the spirit your spirit that breaks

[14:59] through so with the breath coming back

[15:01] into breath you're able to unite and

[15:03] Yoke the Mind Body Spirit which connects

[15:07] you to your purpose and coming into

[15:10] activism from the inside out from that

[15:13] note I'm not going to take up all the

[15:14] time but I'd like to share a couple of

[15:17] tools with you so I invite you to put

[15:20] your feet flat on the

[15:23] floor and take a

[15:25] moment just to close your eyes and and

[15:29] to connect with your

[15:31] breath and to feel

[15:33] yourself in your seat in this present

[15:36] moment and your sitting bones connected

[15:39] to the floor your feet to your seat your

[15:41] feet are connected to the floor and feel

[15:43] the energy of the earth feel yourself

[15:45] present in the earth and then bring that

[15:48] energy from the Earth all the way up

[15:50] through your feet through your knees

[15:52] into your hips into your heart your

[15:54] shoulders top of your head all the way

[15:56] up through the crown of your head and

[15:58] imagine your connecting to the Sun the

[16:01] center of the Sun and bring that sun

[16:04] with heat and warmth and light and peace

[16:07] and love and joy all the way down back

[16:09] through the crown of your head and into

[16:11] your heart connect with your

[16:14] breath and inhale and bring your right

[16:17] arm all the way up toward the sky spread

[16:19] your fingers wide like rays of a sun

[16:22] inhale and then exhale and switch arms

[16:25] and take a big stretch breathe into it

[16:28] reach for with the left arm good inhale

[16:31] MX with the right as high as you can

[16:34] good still feeling connection to Earth

[16:37] and Sun and with the left good now bring

[16:40] your arms all the way up now here's what

[16:42] we're going to do we're going to restore

[16:44] our nervous systems here so if you have

[16:47] any anger anything that you want to

[16:49] release I'm inviting you now just to

[16:51] Flap your wrist and use your breath and

[16:55] start flapping your wrist now if you

[16:57] haven't had your morning coffee you do

[16:59] this for 30 seconds and I promise you

[17:02] you'll feel better keep going stay with

[17:05] your breath and just shake your arms as

[17:06] fast as you can good just get rid of

[17:09] whatever you don't need whatever is not

[17:11] serving you let go go breathe breathe

[17:13] breathe you have 10 seconds F again 9 8

[17:16] 7 6 5 4 3

[17:20] 2

[17:22] Go shake it out great job good we'll

[17:26] just do one more exercise and then I

[17:29] will pass it over to

[17:31] Sharon so here talk a lot about

[17:34] compassion in the heart so bringing us

[17:37] into the heart you can just stay there

[17:39] exactly how you are you're perfect

[17:42] you're going to inhale and lift your

[17:44] heart all the way up toward that thg

[17:45] squeeze your shoulder blades together

[17:48] and then you're going to Exhale and

[17:49] round your spine really round your spine

[17:52] drop your chin straight to your heart

[17:55] and again inhale lift your heart all the

[17:57] way up imagine beams of FL some like

[17:59] filling your heart and then exhale

[18:01] around your

[18:04] spine big breath in open your heart wide

[18:07] fill it up with that light and exhale

[18:12] round last one big breath in fill

[18:16] yourself up moving that energy up your

[18:18] spine into your heart and exhale

[18:21] that beautiful job place your hand on

[18:24] your heart take a couple of deep breaths

[18:28] and feel your power fill your light and

[18:30] fill your energy thank you so much and

[18:33] I'd like to pass it over to the

[18:35] wonderful Sharon ss

[18:40] pro one of the um things I've been

[18:44] looking at in my own life and my work

[18:46] and one of the panels I was recently on

[18:49] in a science

[18:50] conference uh was actually it was almost

[18:53] like taking apart the nature of

[18:55] compassion and being able to distinguish

[18:58] it from other things things like

[19:01] empathy and that I thought would be an

[19:03] interesting thing uh to begin bringing

[19:06] up here

[19:07] because while empathy was considered

[19:11] necessary and uh essential for the the

[19:16] bringing forth of compassion really

[19:18] being able to resonate to know deeply as

[19:21] caros said our

[19:22] interdependence to sense what it would

[19:25] feel like to be so alone or cut off or

[19:28] uh to be silenced to feel abandoned and

[19:32] we know that if we have been in touch

[19:35] with our own states of feeling abandoned

[19:38] and cut off and silenced and so on we

[19:40] can we can

[19:42] resonate but sometimes we actually tune

[19:44] into someone else's state of suffering

[19:47] whether it's personal like a family

[19:48] member or it's in an organization or a

[19:50] community or it's this kind of global

[19:53] sense of disaster it's like sometimes we

[19:56] tune into that that feeling and it's a

[19:59] it's a deep feeling that Resonance of

[20:02] suffering and we're terrified it's like

[20:05] way too much we just think I got to go

[20:08] away I've got to shut down I've got to

[20:10] look at something else and I've got to

[20:12] call this something else disguise it

[20:15] nicely or we

[20:19] feel shattered broken

[20:22] overwhelmed or we start blaming people

[20:26] like I told you what to do I told you

[20:29] who to vote

[20:31] for I told

[20:33] you

[20:35] unsolicited what you should be doing to

[20:37] get better whatever it might be and we

[20:40] fall into that and sometimes we fall

[20:42] into that kind of funny state it's like

[20:45] we've almost feel like we have to seize

[20:47] control of the situation that feeling

[20:49] that sense of being powerless powerless

[20:52] or helpless is so

[20:54] unbearable that instead of like resting

[20:57] with that feeling and seeing what

[21:01] emerges from that we we just get like

[21:05] super impatient and controlling like do

[21:08] this and it's all going to work out by

[21:11] next week or you know I've got a long

[21:13] list of people so I need you to hurry up

[21:16] and get better or see things this way

[21:18] because I've got to move on or something

[21:20] you know there's so many ways we might

[21:23] respond to a very genuine sensing of

[21:25] suffering and and one way is comp

[21:29] passion so I'm almost trying to school

[21:32] myself to call it the compassionate

[21:34] response rather than

[21:36] compassion um which I you know I talk

[21:39] about is being like a moving toward a

[21:42] being

[21:43] with and it's got certain

[21:45] characteristics that may not be so

[21:48] present in all those other reactions

[21:50] like sometimes I think it really rests

[21:53] on knowing our own

[21:55] vulnerability it's so easy to think of

[21:57] compassion almost this kind of weird

[22:00] thing like you know I whose life is so

[22:03] together I'm way over here and I'm kind

[22:05] of bestowing this kindness on you way

[22:07] down there cuz you've Fallen apart you

[22:10] know and never happened to me cuz guess

[22:13] what you know it's not like I'm trying

[22:16] to imply that we all bear the same

[22:18] measure of suffering because I of course

[22:20] don't believe that but that

[22:24] vulnerability that sort of the tensi

[22:27] liveness of life it's like any single

[22:30] one of us can walk out of this room turn

[22:32] on those cell phones get a message and

[22:34] we've got a different life and the one

[22:37] we had when we walked in here you know

[22:39] so that kind of that that heart space is

[22:44] recognizing that there's not a sense of

[22:45] superiority and inferiority and you know

[22:48] I am so intact and you are falling apart

[22:50] it's a very different thing and oddly

[22:53] also I think that there's there's a

[22:55] measure of joy in in compassion that we

[22:59] often miss you know we fall into guilt

[23:02] because we have too much or we can never

[23:04] do enough or we it's that corrosive

[23:06] nature of like constant constant

[23:10] constant anger or something like that

[23:12] you know and it's like uh there's an

[23:14] element of joy we see it um we certainly

[23:17] you know I saw it in the Civil Rights

[23:19] Movement where I was a child basically

[23:21] or or you know growing up and uh you

[23:24] know you see it in the music you see it

[23:26] in the ways people come together you see

[23:28] it in in uh the

[23:30] community which was so extraordinary

[23:33] think how do people do that and it's one

[23:36] thing to look back from the vantage

[23:38] point of history and you think well yeah

[23:40] you know they made sacrifices and they

[23:42] struggled and and they were you know

[23:44] life threats and all things like that

[23:47] but they knew it was all going to work

[23:48] out okay but they didn't know it was all

[23:51] going to work out okay right I can know

[23:55] that looking back or we can know that

[23:56] looking back but we really St step into

[23:59] the unknown when we are seeking to make

[24:04] change and so how do we have that kind

[24:06] of upliftment of spirit and and that

[24:09] sense of

[24:11] Joy so that we just don't fall into a

[24:16] kind of Despair it's really it's an

[24:18] amazing realm to explore and I you know

[24:20] I see people exploring it internally of

[24:22] course is as we seek inner

[24:24] transformation I see people exploring it

[24:27] collectively as we seek to go forward

[24:30] through the many ups and downs and

[24:32] successes and failures and and so on so

[24:36] uh I'll just tell you one story um and

[24:40] then maybe lead in

[24:42] meditation um it's almost like my uh

[24:45] it's my signature story I feel like

[24:48] around when I redefine compassion and I

[24:52] see it hasn't changed and even though

[24:55] it's been many years hasn't changed so

[24:57] far in terms of

[24:59] of how I touch in on that state and I

[25:01] co-founded a retreat center in

[25:03] Massachusetts the Insight Meditation

[25:05] society and we moved into the building

[25:08] in 1976 so we were kind of barely

[25:12] going and um we were very young I was 23

[25:16] when we started the

[25:17] center and hardly knew what a mortgage

[25:20] was was kind of extraordinary looking

[25:22] back and so 3 years down the road we

[25:25] heard that the dama was coming to which

[25:29] is about 40 minutes

[25:31] away and being young and Brash we sent

[25:35] off a letter to the private office and

[25:37] we

[25:38] said we're like a Buddhist center too

[25:41] you know maybe he'd like to come here

[25:43] and to our amazement we ended up getting

[25:47] a letter back saying yeah he'll come so

[25:50] then we had a scramble you know put

[25:52] something together um even though

[25:54] Security in those days was nothing like

[25:56] it is now still it was kind of awesome

[25:59] for us the center is about 2 miles

[26:01] outside of the center of Barry Mass on a

[26:05] little street called Pleasant Street we

[26:06] had block Pleasant Street we had have

[26:09] state troopers patrolling the roof with

[26:10] guns and it was like a

[26:13] mess and just before he'd come i' been

[26:16] in a car accident and I had a broken

[26:19] bone on my foot and I was using crutches

[26:20] and so I was in the back about a 100

[26:23] people as the day came that he was going

[26:26] to

[26:27] arrive and this was like my inner

[26:30] dialogue I can't believe I'm stuck in

[26:32] the back I started the place for God's

[26:37] sake I should be in the front why am I

[26:39] in the back this is so terrible I'm way

[26:42] in the back but I'm such a clutz you

[26:44] know that if I'm in the front with these

[26:47] crutches I'll fall on my face it'll be

[26:49] totally disgraceful I better stay in the

[26:50] back oh but I'm in the back that's so

[26:53] terrible I hate being in the back but I

[26:55] can't go front you know so that was my

[26:56] inter state so

[26:59] and then his car pulled up and he got

[27:01] out in the midst of this like crazy zooy

[27:03] scene all this stuff going

[27:05] on and he often to me just seems to have

[27:08] a kind of instinct for who in the crowd

[27:10] is like suffering the most and he just

[27:12] goes there and he came up to me he cut

[27:15] through like a hundred people and he

[27:17] came up to me and he took my hand and

[27:19] looked me in the eye and he said what

[27:23] happened and that was a moment cuz I

[27:25] realized he couldn't make the injury not

[27:27] have happened and he couldn't make me

[27:30] any more skillful in my use of the

[27:32] crutches but that horrible feeling of

[27:34] being so unseen so stuck in the back so

[27:39] uncared for it was

[27:41] gone so that uh from that moment in time

[27:45] has it completely redefined my sense of

[27:49] compassion like that complete being

[27:51] there not

[27:53] no and not being able to instantly fix

[27:56] it perhaps it doesn't mean you don't do

[27:57] anything but what we do we do from a

[28:00] different place you know from that place

[28:03] of emergence in in that complete

[28:05] connection and and that itself I think

[28:07] is a source of great

[28:09] joy okay so I want to do my very

[28:11] favorite reflection with you which

[28:14] reflects my world view and a kind of

[28:18] non-sentimental sense of these states of

[28:22] of interdependence and love and

[28:25] compassion so you could just sit

[28:26] comfortably

[28:30] and I just want you to start bringing up

[28:32] to your mind anyone who's involved in

[28:36] your sitting here in this room right now

[28:38] what comes to

[28:44] mind who gave you a book or told you

[28:47] about their yoga practice or their

[28:49] meditation practice

[29:00] because really none of us is here in

[29:02] isolation we're here because of a

[29:04] Confluence of relationships connections

[29:08] causes conditions interactions

[29:12] conversations that's this moment in

[29:15] time it's like an ocean of

[29:21] connection so who comes to mind

[29:37] sometimes I do this reflection I think

[29:39] of the Board of Regents at the state of

[29:40] New York which gave me a scholarship so

[29:43] I could go to college which is how I

[29:45] ended up going to India to study

[29:47] meditation because they're part of my

[29:49] sitting here too

[29:59] and sometimes I do this reflection and I

[30:01] think

[30:03] about those people whose Behavior I find

[30:06] really quite

[30:08] obnoxious not just the irritating ones

[30:12] but those times when I feel like I've

[30:14] been brought to an edge so I almost said

[30:16] you know what I will never be

[30:19] free until I can see this in a different

[30:22] way cuz they're part of my being here

[30:25] too

[30:34] and what about the food that we've eaten

[30:36] this

[30:37] morning even if it wasn't a distinct

[30:40] Animal

[30:42] product someone planted a seed in some

[30:46] soil within which creatures

[30:49] live someone harvested that

[30:53] crop transported

[30:56] it provided it to us one way or

[31:07] another so many many

[31:10] beings make up this moment in

[31:14] time and make up every moment in time

[31:19] that is the actual nature of life that

[31:21] we're not cut

[31:23] off we're not isolated

[31:31] knowing that is

[31:33] wisdom the heart's response to that is

[31:52] compassion so thank you

[32:00] gratitude to my sisters for making this

[32:02] space possible gratitude to all of you

[32:04] for coming and sharing this space with

[32:06] all of us

[32:09] today I want to start with a story that

[32:14] uh exemplifies where I began my journey

[32:17] of activism and human

[32:24] rights about 25 years ago I was in India

[32:28] and a friend of mine was in a car

[32:29] accident and uh she had to be rushed to

[32:33] the closest hospital and it was a

[32:36] government hospital was a public

[32:37] hospital and so she was put in the

[32:39] women's Warn and um had you know severe

[32:43] uh liver injuries and stuff and it was a

[32:45] couple of days before she could be moved

[32:47] to a private hospital so a whole bunch

[32:49] of us friends created hospital duty

[32:53] together because the care was so bad

[32:55] that we needed to take turns to be there

[32:57] for her to to basically do everything

[33:00] from bed pants to changing sheets to

[33:02] just really just taking care of her so I

[33:04] did hospital duty for about uh two

[33:08] nights two or three

[33:10] nights and the and the ward that she was

[33:13] in was the burn Ward and it was full of

[33:17] young women mostly in their 20s who had

[33:21] been burned by their families or their

[33:24] husbands or you know some member sort of

[33:27] within this rubric of what I call dowy

[33:30] Related burnings and dowy deaths but

[33:32] really is just another form of violence

[33:35] against women which is pretty much a

[33:37] pandemic the biggest pandemic on this

[33:41] planet and you know there weren't enough

[33:43] beds so there were a lot of women on the

[33:45] on the floors on mattresses on the

[33:48] floors

[33:49] and they didn't have enough painkiller

[33:52] so every so those three nights were

[33:55] nights of listening to just you know

[33:58] screams of pain and moans and groaning

[34:02] and the other thing that was happening

[34:04] was that there were

[34:05] rats so all of the women who were on the

[34:08] floor were being nibbled on and eaten by

[34:13] rats and I spent you know those nights

[34:16] not taking care of my friend Hansa but

[34:18] basically running around the ward

[34:21] chasing away rats or you know trying to

[34:25] find a nurse if a woman seemed to be in

[34:28] more excruciating pain uh you know than

[34:32] any of the other women who were all in

[34:33] excruciating

[34:36] pain I cannot tell you the sense of

[34:40] Rage that I felt and that continue to

[34:45] fuel my activism for years to come that

[34:50] deep sense of just such outrage that

[34:56] this was happening to women women in the

[34:59] space that was supposed to be the safest

[35:01] space the home that this was happening

[35:04] to women at the hands of people who were

[35:07] supposed to be your nearest and your

[35:08] dearest your family

[35:11] members and I don't want to tell this

[35:13] story to sort of exoticize violence in

[35:15] India because it's really just the tip

[35:17] of the iceberg or what happens to women

[35:19] all over the world including here in the

[35:21] United States and for all of us who are

[35:24] now engaged in battle and the war on

[35:26] women you know we all know how this

[35:28] manifests

[35:30] itself um in so many different ways but

[35:33] that rage that I have carried for the

[35:36] last 30 years of my life led to the

[35:39] creation of Saki an organization in New

[35:42] York that that works with battered South

[35:43] Asian women fighting for the passage of

[35:46] the violence against women act getting

[35:48] uh you know making sure that immigrant

[35:50] women were covered becoming a part of

[35:52] the global women's movement that

[35:54] demanded that insisted that women's

[35:56] rights were human rights that actually

[35:58] by the way in case you have noticed

[36:00] women were human beings too

[36:04] um and so this this this journey of sort

[36:08] of being on the front lines bearing arms

[36:11] as a lawyer as a policy policy Advocate

[36:13] as a service delivery person as you know

[36:16] somebody who represented women um in

[36:19] in legal cases you know has was a major

[36:22] part of my life that I carried that led

[36:25] to my external and fueled my extern

[36:28] internal work also deeply damaged me

[36:32] internally because it was not possible

[36:36] to do the work with so much anger

[36:38] without that anger also hurting and

[36:40] harming who you were inside so as much

[36:43] as one Carri the arms one often turn

[36:46] those arms against

[36:49] oneself against oneself and so

[36:52] ironically my women's movement space

[36:55] because all of us carried this anger and

[36:57] pain and then brought it out within

[37:00] ourselves and towards each other started

[37:03] to become an unsafe space too and how

[37:06] ironic was it that those of us who

[37:09] fought to make the home a safe space for

[37:11] women made the space in which we did

[37:13] that organizing and unsafe space for all

[37:15] of us and if we do that reflection I

[37:20] feel that many of us who do human rights

[37:23] work who do justice work in our attempts

[37:28] at creating a safe world for the rest of

[37:31] the world have actually created unsafe

[37:35] spaces for us within our own spaces and

[37:38] so we have fights we have finger

[37:41] pointing we have backbiting we have uh

[37:45] conflicts around resources and who gets

[37:47] the money and who has the voice and who

[37:49] is the leader and whose issue is more

[37:52] important than the other person's issue

[37:53] and where is gender in your analysis and

[37:56] where is race in your analysis and where

[37:58] is class in your analysis and what

[38:00] happened to sexuality and within each

[38:03] one within sexuality we will say oh but

[38:05] then what happened to transgender people

[38:06] but I don't Define as transgender I'm

[38:08] queer oh but what about the bisexuals oh

[38:11] but what about what about what about and

[38:12] we spend all of this time and

[38:15] energy try to make the world a better

[38:18] place while we all fight to position our

[38:22] pieces of the puzzle and be seen and be

[38:25] visible for ourselves individually and

[38:27] for the work that we

[38:30] do and so here we are in

[38:33] 2012 with this outrageous set of

[38:36] circumstances around us a broken

[38:40] economy a broken environment a broken

[38:44] social structure a broken political

[38:48] system in this country and around the

[38:52] world everything around us is broken and

[38:56] yet those of us

[38:58] who have done this work for the last

[39:01] many decades or maybe some of us are new

[39:03] to it yet there are so many millions of

[39:06] us who do this work we cannot find the

[39:10] language and we do not have the vision

[39:12] and we do not have the ability to even

[39:15] articulate what an unbroken world could

[39:18] look like we don't have the ability to

[39:23] Vision to

[39:25] Envision what the other world world

[39:28] might

[39:29] be so our language and our retoric is

[39:33] still about winning

[39:35] wars picking up those arms fighting

[39:40] challenging Us Versus Them partisanship

[39:44] the left versus the right Republicans

[39:46] versus Democrats within the Democratic

[39:49] space those of us who are more

[39:50] Progressive less Progressive more

[39:52] liberal I mean we are just a mess

[40:02] we are

[40:04] also

[40:06] profoundly wise and amazing people we

[40:11] are also people who have

[40:13] brought the service of our work and

[40:16] ourselves and who we are to some vision

[40:21] of a world where values of Justice

[40:24] equality of Peace of dignity

[40:27] make us get up every morning and do the

[40:31] work that we

[40:32] do and the space that I find myself in

[40:35] today as a human rights Advocate is this

[40:39] journey of trying to figure

[40:41] out how do I bring the grace The Love

[40:47] The

[40:48] Compassion of the world that I

[40:51] imagine into my world into who I am and

[40:55] how I do my work

[40:58] and so my

[41:00] sisters are part of my journey of

[41:03] learning I do not have their words I do

[41:06] not know their practices I cannot lead

[41:08] those

[41:09] practices all I know is that my vision

[41:12] of human

[41:13] rights has to begin with the notion of

[41:17] the inherent Dignity of every human

[41:19] being on this planet that includes

[41:21] itself that human rights actually have

[41:24] to begin at home that if you want to

[41:26] manifest a world where everyone has the

[41:28] right to food shelter political opinion

[41:31] religious opinion sexual Freedom

[41:34] religious freedom all of the things a

[41:36] safe

[41:37] environment that if you want to Envision

[41:39] a world of human rights that we all want

[41:43] to see manifest that we actually really

[41:45] have to

[41:46] begin some part of that Journey with

[41:50] ourselves and with ourselves in terms of

[41:53] how we are to ourselves individually how

[41:56] we are to one another within our

[41:58] families in our workplaces in our

[42:01] communities certainly in our political

[42:07] spaces and that's really all I have to

[42:10] say thank

[42:13] [Music]

[42:22] you that's

[42:25] all well I kind of feel like I got you

[42:28] know get you all off your seats

[42:31] or

[42:34] you thank you m Leslie and Sharon when

[42:39] when we talked about how we wanted this

[42:42] to go and I mentioned for those of you

[42:44] who were here early at the very

[42:46] beginning we didn't know would it be

[42:47] five people would it be 30 people I

[42:49] think we're about 60 people so this is

[42:51] good we did want to leave some time uh

[42:54] for input not you know Q&A sure um but

[42:57] also input thoughts does this journey

[43:00] that we're describing sound familiar to

[43:02] you do these questions rattle around in

[43:05] your life how are you looking at these

[43:07] issues of um wanting to work for a more

[43:11] peaceful and just world and yet as Mal

[43:14] was talking about our rhetoric the way

[43:17] the mechanisms that we have are sort of

[43:20] uh we're outgrowing them and we need to

[43:23] create new Pathways and and and new ways

[43:27] of envisioning our activism so I want to

[43:30] open the floor it there's a couple of

[43:32] things people will say uh you really

[43:35] can't invest in the negativity you have

[43:38] to think in positive terms and put out

[43:41] there the kind of thing that you want

[43:44] and yet it feels to me that we can't be

[43:48] dishonest about what's out there in in

[43:52] reality we have to be honest about what

[43:55] is what is reality

[43:58] and then hold in in my my view hold a

[44:02] kind of a vision of where we would like

[44:05] reality to transmute too so I just like

[44:09] your thoughts on

[44:10] that I'm Rob Cole I I published oped

[44:13] news it's a Blog I started shortly

[44:16] before the War Began um and it's grown

[44:19] to so if you Google Li liberal news it

[44:22] comes up number

[44:23] one uh and before that I worked for

[44:26] decades with bio feedback and positive

[44:29] psychology but it was outrage that

[44:32] brought me to activism and I have a hard

[44:36] time struggling

[44:37] between my outrage and my activism and

[44:42] my positive psychology I used to do

[44:44] workshops on

[44:47] smiling and there's a Schism there that

[44:51] is a struggle and I'd like to hear

[44:53] because it sounds like you're further

[44:54] along that path of how do you bridge the

[44:58] two of them great thanks um I just want

[45:01] to thank you first of all I think this

[45:03] amazing panel and I think you're the

[45:05] first people that I've heard in any of

[45:06] the workshops so far to tell a story

[45:09] that isn't just about their work lives

[45:10] which is really helpful um and of for

[45:13] people who haven't just said this is

[45:14] what we did really well who admitted to

[45:17] insecure feelings or who admitted to

[45:18] some sort of difficulty and I think that

[45:20] for me one of the things and I noticed

[45:22] is a lot of cion and connectedness in

[45:24] our movement because so often we're only

[45:26] talking about winning we think we have

[45:28] to teach other people and it's very

[45:31] seldom with what we styling so I just I

[45:33] really appreciate that

[45:36] um that all said I often as an activist

[45:39] who sort of studied history and who

[45:41] studied a lot of what seems to have

[45:43] gotten results sometimes you look at the

[45:46] people out in the street and they're

[45:47] screaming for bloody murder you can say

[45:50] uh something the effect of people

[45:52] are really mad they're not going to

[45:54] stand for this they're outraged and I

[45:56] don't want to am the Tea Party per se

[45:59] but we see efficacy on that recent

[46:02] history and we also see in our history

[46:04] of the labor movement other stuff where

[46:05] things were pretty combative and we got

[46:08] results and I struggle with that

[46:10] particular tension quite a bit um and so

[46:13] I just love to hear some comments on

[46:14] that

[46:16] great I work uh with an organization

[46:19] Jewish voice for peace that um is

[46:23] considered in some ways radical because

[46:25] we Embrace this radical notion that

[46:27] there's no difference in the value of

[46:28] the life of my child Jewish child and

[46:32] and the life of my friends Palestinian

[46:34] children and it's a very intense

[46:37] emotional world that we operate in

[46:39] clearly and and we struggle with many of

[46:42] the things that you're talking about and

[46:43] I really deeply appreciate it and this

[46:45] idea of loving transformation but also

[46:48] holding power accountable and there is a

[46:51] tension here and in my world I see um

[46:55] what what I both love about what you're

[46:57] saying when I what I want to ask you

[46:59] about is the potential uh for the

[47:01] co-optation of the language of we are

[47:04] all connected and universality because I

[47:06] see that happening as well and when it

[47:08] lacks an analysis of power it it doesn't

[47:11] move us forward so how do you balance

[47:15] those uh in between signing up for this

[47:19] uh and not knowing why I was coming to

[47:20] Nets Nation I was asked to become a

[47:22] blogger for spirituality and health and

[47:24] so I'm beginning this journey but my

[47:26] work for a lot of years has been in

[47:28] publicity in public relations and so the

[47:30] questions I'm living that I'm I hope

[47:31] you'll Riff on and and think about with

[47:34] us are the sort of our spiritual

[47:36] practice tells us that we're all one and

[47:38] all the most fabulous latest hot

[47:40] storytelling story of self you know

[47:42] framing tells us to do US versus them

[47:45] the language the Lexicon the story I'm

[47:48] living um because I want to get those

[47:50] stories place is at odds with what I'm I

[47:53] what we you all have been discussing so

[47:55] in addition to sort of language and

[47:57] lexicon I'm wondering what your thoughts

[47:59] are in terms of of actually really

[48:01] fundamentally being brave enough to uh

[48:04] turn the story and how to re-educate

[48:06] reporters so that you actually can still

[48:08] grab the the headlines if you're living

[48:10] the real

[48:12] story we are at the emergence of

[48:16] something that is changing the way we do

[48:19] things so hopefully we're all going to

[48:21] be able to think about these questions

[48:22] together a lot longer than the next

[48:24] eight and now 7 and a half minutes um I

[48:27] want to just start by responding to the

[48:30] very last question about uh press and

[48:33] media and language just because it's the

[48:36] thing that I'm living in right now at

[48:37] Omega we're starting a women's

[48:39] Leadership Center that's very focused on

[48:41] talking about how we change the nature

[48:43] of power how we actually use leadership

[48:45] to do power differently power with not

[48:48] power over and we've hired a public

[48:50] relations firm and they keep you know

[48:53] throwing us these opportunities to to uh

[48:58] jump into the media game and we keep

[48:59] saying no we don't want to jump that way

[49:01] and it's really really hard because you

[49:03] want the efficacy I love that word the

[49:06] eacy of getting placed and getting seen

[49:10] But if you're going to get placed and

[49:11] seen and just reinforce that what you're

[49:13] trying to change then what are you doing

[49:15] so I think it does take a deep

[49:17] discipline uh and and that discipline

[49:20] also has to do with the ego you know

[49:22] that wanting to be seen wanting to be in

[49:24] the front of the room or the back of the

[49:25] room and what does that mean and

[49:27] sometimes sacrificing the the shortterm

[49:30] pragmatic moment for the longer term

[49:33] transformational goals and I think

[49:36] that's part of it too it's sort of how

[49:37] do we hold of both and how do we judge

[49:41] and be very Discerning in the moment is

[49:44] this a pragmatic thing I must do for the

[49:46] E efficacy of and what's the tradeoff or

[49:49] the long-term transformational vision

[49:51] and move back and forth this is not an

[49:53] either or situation I think we need to

[49:55] be living in the both ends so now who on

[49:58] the panel wants to uh respond to some of

[50:00] that

[50:02] first

[50:04] I do not for one second in my

[50:08] transformation from Rage to love and

[50:13] compassion uh want to lose a power

[50:16] analysis in my work uh I think that if

[50:20] we are to imagine a transformed world

[50:24] then that means that structures that op

[50:27] press and disempower need to be

[50:31] restructured or broken down or

[50:34] reimagined and without an understanding

[50:36] of how the structures in our lives

[50:40] perpetuate uh all of the pain that we

[50:43] are struggling against you know it's

[50:46] it's we we can't dismantle them I think

[50:50] that the both and

[50:52] approach um is about understanding that

[50:55] while we deal with structure

[50:57] of Oppression that actually each one of

[51:00] us embodies them within

[51:03] ourselves so as we dismantle that that

[51:06] is the other we're also dealing with

[51:08] ourselves individually and let me make

[51:10] that a little bit more explicit so I'm a

[51:12] woman of color I'm a woman I'm an

[51:15] immigrant I come from the global South I

[51:18] live in the United States of America I

[51:19] can create a whole narrative around my

[51:21] victimization with all of those

[51:23] identities I am also a Hindu I am also

[51:27] upper middle class I have also studied

[51:29] at all of the elite institutions in this

[51:31] college I have a law degree from n at

[51:34] this in this country I have a law degree

[51:36] from NYU and I live a life of privilege

[51:39] that is defined by my class access that

[51:44] I need to own as well so if I talk about

[51:47] myself as a human rights Advocate and I

[51:49] talk my understanding of

[51:50] intersectionality is that my

[51:53] intersections include both aspects that

[51:56] are are victimized as well as aspects

[51:59] that may victimize others and so if you

[52:03] enter the social justice

[52:06] Journey understanding that you in

[52:08] yourself hold these realities within you

[52:12] then it isn't just about the other it

[52:14] isn't just about what someone else is

[52:16] doing it's about understanding power and

[52:19] the structures of Oppression but also

[52:22] understanding how you yourself

[52:25] individually embody them benefit from

[52:28] them live with them play with them and

[52:32] so if we what that shifts for me then is

[52:36] that when I am speaking with anybody

[52:38] else they are never completely the other

[52:42] because there are always parts of me

[52:44] that are connecting with them

[52:47] either as victim or oppressor and I'm

[52:49] only using those terms because I haven't

[52:51] quite figured out how to talk about this

[52:52] in other language but I'll get to that

[52:55] um and so that's that's how I come at

[52:59] the question of power because there's a

[53:00] way in which we remove ourselves from

[53:04] that which we are trying to change and

[53:06] if we and if we always remember the

[53:09] connection then perhaps we can show up

[53:13] and do that work

[53:17] differently I look at the anger as

[53:21] important I don't want to disregard the

[53:25] anger I look at it as important but the

[53:28] anger is like fire to ignite to ignite

[53:32] the

[53:33] movement but then if that fire keeps

[53:37] burning then it can get out of control

[53:40] and do a lot of

[53:42] damage so we use the compassion like

[53:47] Gandhi and Martin Luther King that it's

[53:49] much more sustainable that love to

[53:51] transform as

[53:53] water so we have the fire and we have

[53:56] the water

[53:57] which is much more sustainable yes we

[54:00] can use the fire we can we can use that

[54:02] energy and we get results but who did we

[54:06] take down and how did it affect

[54:10] us so it's also moving from victim to

[54:14] Victor and as Harriet Tubman leading the

[54:18] slaves through slavery she could have

[54:19] easily gotten angry and probably killed

[54:23] the anger I'm sure ignited her movement

[54:26] but she was is able to use love and

[54:28] faith to lead hundreds of slaves to

[54:33] freedom so thank you leslee I I want to

[54:36] just respond to that for one second and

[54:38] then Sharon is going to end uh her

[54:41] response and end us as a panel there's a

[54:45] wonderful um I don't remember her name a

[54:49] Buddhist author who talked about the

[54:50] difference between rage and outrage

[54:53] which is this fire water difference that

[54:56] you know anger can be holy anger and it

[54:59] creates a rage and rage that's not

[55:03] filtered by

[55:04] love gets us spinning into these endless

[55:07] cycles of violence and perpetuating more

[55:10] of the same but rage that's filtered

[55:12] with love is outrage and that's the

[55:16] thing that gets you to stand up on the

[55:17] back of the bus that's the thing that

[55:19] gets you know when you're when you're

[55:22] funneling your outrage through a lens of

[55:24] love and compassion it really changes

[55:25] our process it changes our outcome so I

[55:28] always love that uh that language

[55:30] comparison and so now I'm going to turn

[55:32] it over to Sharon to give final

[55:34] responsiveness and help us close out our

[55:36] time

[55:38] together okay well I I doo hope that

[55:41] this is the beginning of a an emerging

[55:43] dialogue because I think it's

[55:45] fantastic um we can all help one another

[55:49] I think quite a lot I had written down a

[55:51] quotation from Martin Luther King Jr

[55:53] which I didn't get a chance to say which

[55:55] was power without love is reckless and

[55:58] abusive and love without power is

[56:00] sentimental and

[56:02] anemic um and I actually had a chance I

[56:06] was I spent some time with um miles

[56:08] Horton who was the founder of the

[56:10] Highlander Folk School or many of the

[56:11] civil rights leaders trained and later

[56:15] leaders of the environmental

[56:17] movement and uh he wasn't interested in

[56:19] meditation really but I asked him how he

[56:22] found resilience you know like how he

[56:23] kept on going because that is quite a

[56:26] struggle

[56:27] and and he said I go to the mountains I

[56:30] look at the mountains he said I couldn't

[56:31] do what I do without the mountains and

[56:34] then I talk because so much of what I do

[56:36] is loving kindness and compassion

[56:37] meditation and we talked about that a

[56:39] little bit and he said Marty Martin

[56:42] Luther King he said Marty used to say to

[56:44] me you got to love

[56:45] everybody and I used to say no

[56:48] way I'd say I'm only going to love the

[56:50] people who deserve to be loved and he

[56:52] said Marty shake his head and say no you

[56:55] got to love everybody

[56:57] and sometimes when I tell that story

[56:59] actually people respond with well look

[57:01] what happened you know he loved

[57:02] everybody he got assassinated as though

[57:04] that was cause and

[57:06] effect and I find that very interesting

[57:08] too you know that um instead of seeing

[57:12] love as a power we think it's just going

[57:15] to bring you

[57:16] down and and that I think is part of you

[57:20] know as though if he'd been hateful and

[57:22] vengeful and all that he would have been

[57:24] fine um you know um I I think part of

[57:28] our issue

[57:30] is it almost rehabilitating the nature

[57:33] of love and our understanding of love so

[57:36] it's not seen as uh just something so

[57:40] Meek and and Petty and understanding it

[57:43] as the the force it it actually can

[57:47] be but that you know these are questions

[57:50] it's like we're left with lots of

[57:52] questions and and uh things to look at

[57:55] and explore and I just wanted say a

[57:57] little bit about the positive psychology

[57:58] because my last book was called real

[58:01] happiness not through my choice um it

[58:04] was something it was a title the

[58:06] publisher came up with and I was like H

[58:09] I don't know if I want to get on the

[58:10] happiness

[58:11] train and uh it's a little superficial

[58:16] and then I wanted a book tour this was

[58:17] last year uh which was like you know a

[58:20] very quick succession of of lots of

[58:22] cities and I'd go places and people

[58:25] would say oh that happiness thing thing

[58:26] you know it's like so superficial it's

[58:29] so it's so uh

[58:32] selfish um it's conflict avoidant you're

[58:35] not going to look at the terrible pain

[58:36] and suffering that is you just want to

[58:38] be happy as though it was only pleasure

[58:40] seeking and city after City people would

[58:43] say to me well haven't you ever seen the

[58:44] bumper sticker that says if you're not

[58:46] depressed you're not paying

[58:48] attention and I'd say well yeah I have

[58:50] seen it and it it makes a lot of sense

[58:53] to me and besides it told me that in the

[58:54] last City but

[58:57] you know what about when we are

[59:00] depressed what about when we are we feel

[59:03] so broken so exhausted let alone brucken

[59:07] I'm just so

[59:09] tired that we feel we can't go on I mean

[59:13] that obviously doesn't serve us and it

[59:15] doesn't serve anybody else either so if

[59:18] we could um I'd like

[59:21] to um reclaim words

[59:24] actually uh it's one of the things I

[59:27] actually try to do like love or loving

[59:30] kindness like Faith Like

[59:33] compassion like

[59:35] happiness you know then I think we we

[59:37] will have a sense of a a different path

[59:41] um going forward for each of us and and

[59:44] something that we can

[59:45] share okay thank you so why don't we

[59:48] just sit together for a few moments

[1:00:02] and if you could just wish yourself

[1:00:07] well to be joyous to be

[1:00:12] resilient to be courageous

[1:00:32] everyone else

[1:00:42] here all those who've helped us be here

[1:01:03] all those who are

[1:01:22] hting and all be everyone

[1:01:38] so thank you

Sharon Salzberg
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American Buddhist meditation teacher and author, co-founder of the Insight Meditation Society in Barre, Massachusetts (1976) with Jack Kornfield and Joseph Goldstein. A leading voi…

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Yes, and they're deeply interdependent. The panel argues that effective activism requires both external strategy and inner resilience. Contemplative practice helps activists avoid burnout, stay grounded in compassion, and act from clarity rather than reactivity. Inner peace and outer peace aren't separate projects—they reinforce each other.
The panel teaches that anger is valid fuel for change, but activists need tools to work with it without being consumed by it. This includes emotional intelligence practices, grounding techniques, and understanding interdependence. The goal isn't to suppress anger but to act powerfully from a place of agency rather than reactivity.
A peace activist who uses violent rhetoric or aggressive tactics is reproducing the harm they're trying to prevent. The panel invites activists to examine how their methods align with their vision. This doesn't mean being passive—it means asking how you can be powerfully effective while staying aligned with your values.
Without practices that tend to the inner landscape—meditation, movement, emotional awareness—activists can become trapped in cycles of blame, overwhelm, and reactivity. Contemplative practice provides the resilience and nourishment needed to sustain action over time without depleting yourself.
Compassion doesn't mean agreeing with or excusing harmful actions. It means recognizing the interdependence and shared humanity of all beings, even those whose policies or actions you oppose. This allows you to act with clarity and conviction without demonizing opponents—a stance that's both spiritually mature and strategically more effective.
The panel explicitly rejects this framework. Meditation and activism aren't either/or. Instead, meditation and contemplative practice are tools that help activists become more effective, sustainable, and aligned with their values. The work is the integration—bringing inner awareness to outer action.
Grounding practices—like the earth and sun meditation the panel offers—reconnect you to your own power and the larger interdependent whole. Understanding that suffering arises from complex causes (not just individual failure) helps activists maintain realistic expectations and avoid burnout-inducing perfectionism.

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